The load data says a min of 18.8 grains up to a maximum of 20.4. I had a 222 and it was.amazing in that cartridge. Is there any milsurp IMR8208 around anymore? I have come to the conclusion that if this doesn't shoot accurately in your rifle, nothing will. Many reviews state that military cases are heavier than commercial brass. My barrel is a 1:8 twist though so I switched to a heavier bullet to tighten the groups. Thats all there is to it except for a couple of additional steps that are required to prep military cases and brass. 0000010557 00000 n
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I have had better results with, well, everything else. I am using a 55 grain Hornady FMJ bullet with Sellier and Bellot small rifle primers. AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own. Bolt Action Rifles; Lever Action Rifles; Pump Action Rifles; Semi Auto Rifles; Single Shot Rifles; Other Rifles; Shotguns. IMR4198 and a 52gr. ONLY TWO DEFINING FORCES HAVE GIVEN UP THEIR LIVES FOR YOU. This powder works great for my 45/70 gov, loads. I have used IMR-3031 with 55gr Sierra HPBT, 55gr Hornady SP, and 55gr Hornady V-Max with charges in the 25gr-26gr range with CCI BR-4 primers. Examples include Ramshot TAC (left) and Accurate 2015 (right). Contributing Editor for RifleShooter Magazine, Brad Fitzpatrick gives us a review of this modernized version of an iconic favorite. Not capable of the highest velocity obtainable for the cartridge, but I've used it in bolt actions for over 30 years. Also, I read that it works great with my .223. One sighter shot, then 5 shots for group. Through my RCBS powder measure, it's pretty crunchy. 53 0 obj
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What It Is Not. Do you mind giving me the IMR4198 load you used on the 50 grain? If you wanted a longer range varmint load use the 53 V-max and 8208. It may still be too hot or may not meet your accuracy objective, but its not likely dangerous to your gun or you. Seems that most don't like it because of the problems with their powder measures - not because of accuracy issues. Following. of IMR-4198. IMR or H4198 powder is one of the "fastest" recommended powders for 55 grain bullets in an AR semi-automatic. I scale my charges most of the time. Around 1959, the .222 Special was renamed the .223 Remington to prevent confusion, but it was not introduced commercially until December 1963 in the Remington Model 760 pump-action rifle and was soon chambered in other rifles. All I can say is that 4198 is a lot faster and,a lot lighter charge than the powders I use. Mostly with the 52 grain bullets. I have an 8lb sealed jug of 4198 that I won't use. HV6+.cE) Y$Y8XdO,MFH]0`[Gu%/|m`n`Zh>wOO=||n|nq+4Lv+b,;awwks[GcFx8X3X3;EOS,.ca%?BCAx>9pa. You are using an out of date browser. /x:^6"]eAfy(Pjch[nc2@:P%N!CvU}V5tFUs4ejng5bVCv[ |
I believe, I am what is keeping it from its full potential. Special tools are made just for this purpose. Nonetheless, their average water capacity was almost the same as the combined average of the weighed commercial brass. . It shoots good groups and cycles fine with my AR but after I'm done I'll go back to TAC 2 Reply textbooknarco 2 yr. ago In spite of stiff competition, the .223 is easily the most widely used centerfire varmint cartridge in the world. . However, my handloading mentor, John Redmon, who actually got me started in handloading the 223 Rem. It's barely on the edge to have enough gas to cycle the actions. Copyright Complaints: Please direct DMCA Takedown Notices to the registered agent: Handloading, Reloading, and Bullet Casting. I'm waiting for it to come back into stock. This has shot one hole groups for years. To show viewers how to succeed at long range, J. Guthrie gears up for a challenging shot while chasing Colorado pronghorn at long range with DPMS' Panther 6.5 Creedmoor. Trim to length as needed, clean/uniform the primer pockets, reprime, charge with powder, verify powder charges, seat bullets to specific overall length, perform final inspection, box, and label. I worked up to this charge as should you! Varmint shooters with small-bore cartridges love it. Nickel size+/- 5 shot groups at 100yds. If youre not shooting a single-shot rifle, the length of the magazine box may dicatate the maximum COL possible. One thing I will say is that I had someone try to reload 223 in my press one time that had been shot through a suppressed AR and even after sizing/depriming the case would spring back into a larger shape and would end up not chambering. Pretty ancient history, but it was a .556 specific powder. Best accuracy has been found at approximately 1/2 grain under published maximum. Around 2007, when the exchange rates strongly favored Australia over Canada, Hodgdon started selling an Australian-made version of H4198 as IMR-4198. All I have left for .223 is some IMR 4198 until my backordered 748 ships. I don't like how Hornady splits up the 223/5. I tried running 4198 with some lighter 52gr smk's in my AR and it did not work at all. Even if a fella only had, say a 30/30 barrel, being a single-shot, it's very easy to load it to make 50-yard head-shots on squirrels with a little lead and and a pinch of powder. IT WORKS REALLY GOOD ON MY 223 AMMO RELOADS. 0000012032 00000 n
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THANKS FOR THE GREAT PRODUCT AND SERVICE. Use in smokeless muzzleloader with great success. Never used it, don't know much about it. All these have offered complete penetration on broadside shots. I've only used it on 40 and 50 grain bullets but nothing heavier than that. That would be a good start on this. I used IMR4198 in my wife's 222 Rem, and have tried it in cast bullet guns from 22 Hornet to 45/70. I use a case/cartridge headspace gauge to spot-check roughly 10 percent of my brass after completing case prep. 1, (4) Ruger M77 MKII All-Weather, (5) Mossberg MVP and (5) Ruger Mini-14 Ranch Rifle. Its performance approached the .222 Remington Magnum (center) introduced in 1957. or a cross section of both? I have used it only in 444 Marlin. Examples include the Hornady SP SX and V-MAX, Sierra HP and BlitzKing, Nosler Varmageddon HP and Ballistic Tip, Speer TNT and Barnes Varmint Grenade. Mag, IMR-4198 was pretty much the go to powder for a couple decades. You will get great groups with the V-max but not like a 52 or 53 match bullet. Heav-ier bullets were excluded, as I am unaware of any commercially made .223 rifles with a twist rate faster than 1:8 (with the exception of the previously mentioned discontinued Savage rifles), which is generally necessary to stabilize select 75-grain and most 80- to 90-grain bullets. Used to be when you asked about choosing a powder there was one answer. 25a - Remington model 48C, 22 cal rifle Remington model 48C, bolt action, 22 Cal rifle with clip 26 - 12 ga Bolt Action Model 583.20 JC Higgins 27 - Winchester Single Shot, Model 37, 20 ga 27a - Winchester model 50 20ga. Just make sure you use IMR data not H data as these are not the same powders. Current Oregon State Police Background Check Queue Status As Countdown To Measure 114 Vote Approaches. New H&R Retro lineup from Palmetto State Armory * Shot Show 2023, Road Trip: Marysville, WA 98270 to JBLM (tacoma, WA 98433), Redfield International sight sets with rear base, Kalashnikov USA 12.5" Komrad with Extras (12 Gauge). There is no single max load, since every action, barrel, case, primer, bullet, and lot of powder is different. __________________ The .223 Remington is America's favorite cartridge according to rifle and ammunition sales. Ive weighed several hundred pieces having various headstamps and concluded, in most cases, the difference in ballistic performance is negligible. The shooter provides the power to cycle the bolt, extract the empty case, and feed another round. This article is intended for handloaders who have experience reloading for their bolt-action rifles and now want to handload for an AR-style semiautomatic rifle. Ive used 4198 for a few different loads with .223. The .223 Remington has been chambered in a variety of rifles and action types. Since you are already at max, I would back down to around 21.0 grains. Good old IMR 4895 had published loads for each of these cartridges. I never tried 4198 in an AR because my experience with it in a bolt action .223 was severely underwhelming. Some of the gas is divertedbefore the bullet exits the barrelto actuate a piston, carrier, or operating rod. x*",`P;e4Ok
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~?'W?5UEpx{PL&|i%sc?/y,\ o& g[A This Extreme series extruded propellant has gone through some changes since its inception while maintaining the identical burning speed of the past. So no metering problems. However, I can come close to the published maximums in any of my rifles, even the 26" barreled M-70. This combination has proven to be very good from a number of rifles, not only mine. I've always used both 4895 powders for my military bolt guns, but have heard it gives good results in the 223/5.56 caliber. I take factory rounds out each time to verify it cycles correctly. The maximum listed by IMR for a 55 gr bullet was 21.5 gr back then (2001) and what i used. Current production IMR-4198 should be Canadian-made and can cycle most AR15's when loaded to maximum loads. I found the IMR 4198 powder is the most accurate powder for my 7.62 x 39 loads. Kimber's Hunter Pro Desolve Blak takes the firm's more affordable mountain rifle to new heights. Competition shooters know that the bullets position in the chamber throat/leade can significantly affect accuracy. This powder is one of the best that I have used I have been reloading for about 13 years now and I have relied on this powder for most of my rifle bullets needs. Happy to find it in stock! sometime since then, Hodgdon has gone back to Canadian-produced IMR-4198. The .223 Remington (right) shares identical outside dimensions as the 5.56 NATO (left) but is not fully interchangeable. . They typically weighed between 90.5 grains and 92.5 grains and on average held around 30.6 grains of water, measured level with the case mouth. Mediocre accuracy and velocity combined with lousy metering in the powder measure. I've used between 19 and 20.5 grains of IMR 4198 with mixed results. Can't imagine the 223 would be much different. .223 Remington (Hodgdon Data Using IMR Powder) reloading data with 221 loads. Just finished loading some IMR 4198 at 20.0, 20.5, and 21.0 for testing in my 16" AR. The chamber throat/leade dimensions are also a major determining factor. 0000023828 00000 n
Well that's pretty quick. I've been having excellent results with some very old IMR 4198 and Nosler 40 grain Ballistic tip bullets in my 11.5" SBR. For more information, go towww.P65Warnings.ca.gov. It was in the Hornady manual and the power was available so I picked it up. Its best to weed out any irregular cartridges to avoid problems later. I don't have a lot to add, was hoping others might chime in first. Since reloading for my Mini-14 starting back in the mid 80's I've had excellent results with H335, BLC-2, Win 748, Acc 2230. 0000001516 00000 n
All Rights Reserved. In checking commercial .223 Remington cases from Federal, Hornady, NoslerCustom, Remington and Winchester, weights varied from 89.5 to just under 95 grains. windshield wiper broke off while driving. Powder For Sale Northern Indiana (South Bend area). This is my Varmint load for my VTR-15 RIFLE (22" barrel). I highly recommend this powder and fully recommend this company. 0000005092 00000 n
Thats the energy source required to retract the bolt, extract the fired case, and self-load another round from the magazine. seirras IMR 4198. Anybody use something like a 223 bolt action to practice at the range instead of always using their larger caliber hunting rifle? While safe in my rifles using my methods of development, please use professional guidance for your own efforts. If so you can check that by using it. I use IMR-4198 for my .30BR and 7.62x39 accuracy loads, and will be trying it out using pulled bullets from x39 ammo in x54R reduced recoil loads for my 110lb Granddaughter's scoped M-N 91/30. A lot of you are out there, and I, myself, fell into this category not so long ago. My AR is a 16" Bushmaster M4 chambered in 5.56. It is a bit too fast for optimum results with heavier bullets. I found this powder to burn clean an not much residue left in the barrel, I really like it. 4198 with a 55 gr. It worked fine. data showing how varying the bulletseating depth improved accuracy in his bolt actions. Extreme spread was .473, subtracting .223, and I have a .250 group!